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The Nuggets should trade Carmelo now

Denver Nuggets forward Carmelo Anthony fouls out against the Utah Jazz during the fourth quarter of the first round playoffs game two at the Pepsi Center on April 19, 2010 in Denver. Utah beat Denver 114-111 to even the series at 1-1.  UPI/Gary C. Caskey Photo via Newscom

The Denver Nuggets are now listening to trade offers, per ESPN…

The Nuggets still aren’t aggressively shopping Anthony and haven’t withdrawn their longstanding offer of a contract extension, but numerous sources told ESPN.com that Denver officials have in recent days let other teams know for the first time that they will listen to pitches after previously resisting such discussions.

“I’m not sure how soon, but I do think they’re going to trade him [between now and February],” said one rival GM.

Said another source briefed on Denver’s plans: “There’s no doubt they are working on it. Eventually they’re going to pull the trigger. ”

One source close to the situation told ESPN.com that Anthony has been no more communicative with the organization since the hiring of Masai Ujiri as Denver’s new vice president of basketball operations in late August than he was before Ujiri’s return to the Nuggets. Ujiri began his front-office career as a Nuggets scout during Anthony’s rookie season in 2003-04 and spoke optimistically about arranging a face-to-face meeting with Anthony — which sources say has not yet taken place — and trying to sell him on the team’s plans for the future at his introductory press conference.

The timing on this is going to be interesting. Training camp starts on Sep. 28, and it’s pretty obvious that Carmelo doesn’t want to play in Denver this season. He hasn’t even met with the new GM and the guy has been on the job for a month now. Yeesh.

So, yes, in all likelihood, the Nuggets will move Anthony before the February trade deadline, but it will be a hell of a lot easier to move him now that it will in five months, when the Nuggets are sitting in the #3 or #4 spot in the West. How does the team sell that to its fan base? Look, we’re poised to make a deep run in the posteason, but we’re going to trade away our best player because he’s going to sign elsewhere in the summer.

When I suggested that the Raptors look to trade Chris Bosh last February, the blog was inundated by delusional Raptor fans who said that the team was playing well and Bosh wasn’t about to leave a winner. Come February, will Nugget fans remember the Bosh fiasco or will they still be dreaming about a run to the NBA Finals? Because if Carmelo starts the season with the Nuggets, they’ll probably be a 50+ win team again.

No, Ujiri should bite the bullet and get the best deal he can for Carmelo now. Then he should turn around and move Chauncey Billups, because there’s no point in paying a 33-year-old point guard $13+ million to lead a rebuilding effort when the point guard of the future (Ty Lawson) is already on the roster. It’s going to be painful, but look at how the Seattle Supersonics/Oklahoma City Thunder has rebuilt its roster over the past few seasons. They were once a middling playoff team built around Ray Allen and Rashard Lewis, but management let Lewis walk in free agency and traded Allen for assets. Now look at them — they’re arguably the second-best team in the West.

Is Ujiri the second coming of Thunder GM Sam Presti? Probably not, but that doesn’t mean he can’t emulate him.

Bulls discussing Noah as part of Carmelo deal?

Earlier today, I discussed the report that the Chicago Bulls were one of two teams that Carmelo Anthony would like to be traded to before the season starts. Now it appears that the Bulls are thinking about using Joakim Noah as a centerpiece in an offer for the Denver swingman, per ESPN Chicago.

The Chicago Bulls are interested in trading for the Denver Nuggets’ Carmelo Anthony and are discussing internally including Joakim Noah as part of the deal, according to a league source.

According to the source, the Nuggets are hesitant to take back Luol Deng as part of a deal with the Bulls because Denver is leery of taking on long-term contracts with the collective bargaining agreement set to expire on June 30, 2011. Deng is two years into a six-year, $71 million contract.

Now we’re talking.

Noah isn’t a superstar or even a star, but he’s a quality center who brings defense, rebounding and energy to the Bulls lineup night in and night out. I would think that the Nuggets would require that he be included in any deal for Melo. If they can come away with Noah, Taj Gibson and a first round draft pick or two, that would be a solid start to their rebuilding effort that will no doubt begin once Anthony departs.

There’s just one sticking point — without Deng’s bloated salary, the numbers don’t match, so the Bulls would have to get a third team involved to take on Deng’s contract. That, or the Nuggets would have to take Deng as part of the deal.

Carmelo prefers the Knicks or Bulls?

According to an ‘NBA source’ of Marc J. Spears, Carmelo Anthony wants to be traded to the Knicks or the Bulls.

The Knicks have limited assets to offer the Nuggets, which makes the Bulls a more appealing potential trade partner. The Bulls can offer a replacement small forward in Luol Deng, as well as two young forwards in James Johnson and Taj Gibson. New York officials would like to make a run at signing Anthony next summer if he were to opt to become a free agent.

The prevailing notion is that the Knicks don’t have much to offer in the way of trade, but I’d rather do a deal for Danilo Gallinari, Anthony Randolph and Eddy Curry than trade for Luol Deng and his bloated contract, which is worth $51 million over the next four years. I swear some of these pundits don’t even look at the salaries when they throw around trade scenarios. Deng is a solid player, but at almost $13 million a season, I would take a pass.

So unless the Bulls are able to add a couple of first round draft picks, the Knicks’ (potential) offer of Gallinari and Randolph would be better for the Nuggets. Thus far, it appears that the Knicks have been unwilling to include Randolph in the deal, which is a little mind-boggling. This is Carmelo Freaking Anthony we’re talking about — the Knicks should be pulling out all the stops to acquire him now, especially since the Spears article also states that he wants to be traded before the season starts. If he lands elsewhere, the chances that he’ll sign with the Knicks next summer decrease dramatically.

Sure, he could get traded to the Clippers or the Rockets and become a free agent next summer, but will those teams really pony up the best offer without some assurance that Carmelo is going to re-sign? The Nuggets will get the best deal from a team that knows Anthony is a long-term acquisition.

One other item from the Spears piece — Carmelo has yet to meet face-to-face with Masai Ujiri since he was hired as Denver’s new GM. That’s not a good sign for those holding out hope that he’ll be with the Nuggets long term.

Stein: Carmelo isn’t on the trading block

Denver Nuggets forward Carmelo Anthony scores against the Utah Jazz during the fourth quarter of the first round playoffs game two at the Pepsi Center on April 19, 2010 in Denver. Utah beat Denver 114-111 to even the series at 1-1.  UPI/Gary C. Caskey Photo via Newscom

According to Marc Stein, the Nuggets are telling interested teams thanks but no thanks.

Yet sources tied to five potential Anthony suitors, reached in recent days by ESPN.com, all relayed the same story about the Nuggets’ response: They’re pretty much ending these conversations before they even start by saying that they don’t want to engage in Melo talks.

Ujiri’s Denver superiors instead want him to lead the club’s mountain climb of a bid to try to reconnect with the 26-year-old scoring machine before they even consider trading him, hoping that some sort of positive karma exists in the reunion of Ujiri, a former Nuggets scout, and Anthony, who both arrived in Denver in 2003 and spent several formative seasons together in the organization.

I explored the various trade scenarios last week, and the main issue is that whatever team that trades for Anthony will want a long term commitment. Carmelo wants the three-year extension, so an extend-and-trade is the best way to go for all parties involved. So why he technically doesn’t need to sign off on a new trade destination, the still-unsigned extension gives him the power to do exactly that.

Ujiri has been described as a very positive person, so he’s doing his due diligence here in the hopes of convince Anthony to stay while he tries to reshape the roster. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: If Carmelo starts the season as a Nugget, he’ll likely finish it as a Nugget. It will be very difficult to trade him in February if the Nuggets are in the middle of the playoff pack in the West. (Just look at what happened to the Raptors.)

Nuggets: Talks with Carmelo have been ‘cordial’

Injured Denver Nuggets forward Carmelo Anthony watches the scoreboard against the Philadelphia 76ers during the second half at the Pepsi Center in Denver on December 26, 2008. Anthony has missed three straight games with an injured right elbow. Denver rallied to beat Philadelphia 105-101. (UPI Photo/Gary C. Caskey) Photo via Newscom Photo via Newscom

At a press conference to introduce his new GM, Masai Ujiri, the Nuggets’ soon-to-be owner Josh Kroenke said that the recent meeting with Carmelo Anthony went rather well.

Ujiri and Josh Kroenke, recently elevated to team president and awaiting the “owner” title, have good relationships with Anthony. They both spoke Tuesday at a news conference at the Pepsi Center to officially announce Ujiri’s hiring.

Kroenke took aim at a recent column on Yahoo.com that cited sources who detailed a deteriorating relationship between team executives and Anthony’s representation, headed by agent Leon Rose.

“Anything that has been said is either someone trying to manipulate the situation behind the scenes or other motives that are unknown at this point,” Kroenke said. “But Melo and his representation have been great to us.

“I think he knows he can come to me as an individual. We have that amount of respect that we can talk about things openly in a noncombative way. So anything that has been stated from sources behind sources . . . All of our talks have been extremely cordial. I haven’t had a negative conversation with Carmelo Anthony since I’ve known him, and that goes back to my time as a college basketball player. I don’t have a bad word to say about Melo as a person.”

The aforementioned column was written by Adrian Wojnarowski and he paints a very different picture of how the meeting went:

Denver was furnished with a short list of teams and told to get to work. Yes, this is how William Wesley and Leon Rose of CAA work now, thick with threats and ultimatums and a swagger suggesting that the sport belongs to them. After Anthony told owner-in-waiting Josh Kroenke that he still wanted out of Denver during a Sunday meeting, the Nuggets appear done trying to sell their All-Star forward on a contract extension.

This wasn’t a productive, nor particularly pleasant, meeting and multiple sources said it could turn out to be the point of no return for Anthony and the organization. Sources insist it’s no longer a matter of if the Nuggets trade Anthony, but when, where and for whom he’s traded for.

So what’s the disconnect? Well, one of four things may be happening: 1) Wojnarowski is getting bad information from his sources, 2) Wojnarowski has an axe to grind and is fabricating the story, 3) the Nuggets are spinning the situation, or 4) the Nuggets are clueless.

Wojnarowski is a pro, so I think we can cross #2 off of his list, despite the fact that he infuses some commentary into his stories. The Nuggets insist there are sources that are trying to manipulate the situation, though Wojnarowski cites ‘multiple sources’ in his story. At least two people told him that the meeting could represent the ‘point of no return’ for the two parties.

The Nuggets would benefit if they paint a pretty picture of their relationship with Carmelo, as it would help them get a better deal if other teams aren’t sure if Anthony is trying to force his way out of Denver. I suspect that the real issue here is some combination of #1, #3 and #4. It’s entirely possible that Wojnarowski has sources that are trying to create a media dialogue, and that the Nuggets didn’t think the meeting went all that poorly, and are just trying to put lipstick on a pig.

But the crux of Wojnarowski’s story is that the Nuggets were given a list of teams that he’d like to be traded to — did that actually happen? If so, I don’t see how Denver can’t see the writing on the wall, or feel like they have a good chance of keeping Anthony in town. There’s a reason that he hasn’t signed the extension yet, even with a lockout looming next summer.

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