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Carmelo, Prokhorov to meet over All-Star Weekend

Marc Stein sifts through the latest Carmelo trade buzz for ESPN:

Although details of a formally scheduled meeting have yet to emerge, Denver officials are operating under the assumption that Melo and Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov will finally meet face-to-face during All-Star Weekend in Los Angeles, according to sources close to the process. The Nuggets encourage that meeting, sources say, because trading with New Jersey has always been more favorable to Denver than dealing with New York and because the Nuggets — who still like New Jersey’s Derrick Favors better than any player who’s been made available to them in the months-long Melo trade saga — know that the Nets remain unwilling to participate in a trade unless Anthony also commits to an extension in New Jersey.

This is the same billionaire who pulled out of the Carmelo trade talks earlier this season because he felt like his team was distracted and was potentially being used to spur negotiations with the Knicks. That may still be the case, but the trade deadline is fast approaching and if Prokhorov can sell Carmelo on the idea of playing in Brooklyn, the Nets and Nuggets may be able to make a deal because the Nuggets want Favors. Keep in mind that Prokhorov’s spokesperson says that nothing has changed with regard to the Nets’ non-pursuit of Anthony.

Meanwhile, Knicks GM Donnie Walsh is dealing with owner James Dolan, who may be more willing to gut the roster to acquire Anthony before the deadline. Carmelo’s meeting with the Nets has to be putting the pressure on Walsh to make a deal, though the Knicks are also expected to meet with Anthony in Los Angeles.

If Prokhorov is smart (and he is), he should bring part owner Jay-Z to help sell the Nets franchise. Who knows, maybe Carmelo will be as impressed by Prokhorov as LeBron was last summer.

Bynum’s knees, historically speaking

Los Angeles Lakers’ Andrwew Bynum poses for photos during the basketball team’s media day at the Lakers training facility in El Segundo, California on September 25, 2010. The Lakers will try to three-peat this season after winning back-to-back NBA championship titles. UPI/Jim Ruymen

In his annual trade value column, Bill Simmons discusses how Andrew Bynum’s first six seasons rank amongst his historical peers.

38. Andrew Bynum
A list of the most memorable centers and power forwards of the past 35 years organized by their first six regular seasons for “games played,” “games missed” and “number of seasons in which they played 90 percent of the games.”

Dwight Howard: 489 — 3 — 6
Karl Malone: 489 — 3 — 6
Tim Duncan: 451 — 9 — 5
David Robinson: 475 — 17 — 5
Kevin McHale: 475 — 17 — 5
Charles Barkley: 472 — 20 — 6
Dikembe Mutombo: 471 –21 — 5
Robert Parish: 469 — 23 — 5
Hakeem Olajuwon: 468 — 24 — 5
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: 467 — 25 — 5
Dirk Nowitzki: 444 — 48 — 5
Kevin Garnett: 442 — 50 — 5
Patrick Ewing: 438 — 54 — 4
Moses Malone: 428 — 66 — 4
Alonzo Mourning: 409 — 83 — 2
Shaquille O’Neal: 408 — 84 — 2
Yao Ming: 404 — 88 — 3
Ralph Sampson: 395 — 97 — 3
Chris Webber: 329 — 131 — 1
Andrew Bynum: 309 — 169 — 1
Bill Walton: 223 — 269 — 0
Sam Bowie: 207 — 285 — 1
Greg Oden: 82 — 266 — 0

What jumps out? First, the durable guys remained durable throughout their careers, with just one exception: McHale, who ruined the second half of his career by bravely (and some would say foolishly) playing on a broken foot in the 1987 playoffs. Second, anyone who missed more than 80 games and couldn’t play in 90 percent of the games in at least four of their first six seasons went on to have injury-plagued careers. (That includes Shaq, who played more than 68 games in a season just six times and missed an average of 18 games per season.) And third, if you can’t stay on the court at your youngest/healthiest/freshest/most energetic, it’s a pretty safe bet that things won’t change as you get older. It’s straight DNA: Some dudes are structurally built for 82-game NBA seasons, others aren’t. So if you make the argument “If Bynum can stay healthy, he’s a franchise center,” just make sure you also mention that we have 35 years of evidence that there’s a tipping point when “If he can stay healthy …” becomes “… he’s not going to stay healthy.” We’re there with Andrew Bynum. He’s not going to stay healthy. If I were the Lakers, I would trade him right now.

(Actually, what am I saying? They should definitely keep him! The guy is built like solid oak!)

I still don’t know why the Lakers are so intent on holding onto Bynum in this scenario unless they are simply convinced that Carmelo wouldn’t fit in with the 2011 Lakers or are going all in, hoping that Bynum’s knees will hold up until the end of June so that Kobe can get his sixth ring.

Bynum doesn’t even finish games, so the Lakers are theoretically passing on a multiple All-NBA forward for a guy who always rides the pine in crunch time. It’s truly ponderous — I don’t care what Jon Barry says.

Knicks’ front office fractured over Carmelo talks?

Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports writes that Knicks management may be at odds over what is a worthwhile deal to make for Carmelo Anthony.

The Nuggets are selling the idea they’ll be content to keep Anthony through the Feb. 24 trade deadline if no one meets their demands. The Nuggets want to package Anthony and Chauncey Billups for a deal that includes Danilo Gallinari, Raymond Felton, the expiring contract of Eddy Curry and a draft pick, the New York Daily News reported. Another source said Denver is still pushing for more Knicks players, including rookies Landry Fields and Timofey Mozgov, in the package.

“This is like the Nets talks all over again: Denver keeps moving the goal posts,” one league source said. “They don’t know what they want there.”

As the Daily News reported, the wild card is Knicks owner James Dolan and the looming possibility he could overrule his president and cut a deal with Denver himself. There are fears that Dolan is listening too much to former president and coach Isiah Thomas and possibly agents and representatives for Anthony who have agendas to undermine Walsh.

“Donnie isn’t going to make a one-sided deal and gut his team to get this done now,” said one league source who regularly speaks to Walsh. “He’ll end up with two unhappy stars because they have no supporting cast. But if Dolan gets more involved in this, he could really makes a mess of this.”

The reason a deal isn’t already done is because Donnie Walsh is exercising great patience. He knows that the Nuggets’ bargaining position isn’t as strong as they’d like people to believe. He thinks he can get Anthony and Billups for Gallinari, Felton and a first round pick (or Anthony Randolph), but it sounds like the Nuggets are continuing to ask for more.

But time’s a wastin’. The Nuggets aren’t likely to let the trade deadline pass without getting something for Carmelo. The team isn’t playing well and they aren’t a threat to make a strong playoff push with a fractured locker room. If Denver balks at a trade with the Knicks, then the Nuggets risk going the way of the Cavs or Raptors…and look at those teams now.

Knicks have “more of a sense of urgency” with regard to Carmelo trade

New York Knicks Amar’e Stoudemire, Timofey Mozgov, Raymond Felton, Danilo Gallinari and Wilson Chandler (L) wait during a fourth quarter timeout against the Los Angeles Lakers at Madison Square Garden in New York City on February 11, 2011. The Lakers defeated the Knicks 113-96. UPI/John Angelillo

Alan Hahn of Newsday has the details:

As we reported on Monday, a source with knowledge of the situation said there is “more of a sense of urgency” from the Knicks to get a deal done before the deadline rather than to wait until free agency. But that doesn’t mean the Knicks would be willing to pay top dollar if they know they’re the only bidder.

The Knicks know landing Carmelo would pave the way to attracting Chris Paul in 2012. But if Denver comes in at the 11th hour and demands the Knicks to add, say, Al Harrington (2012-13 salary of $6.68 million) or Chris Andersen’s ($5.2 million in 12-13), that would compromise their ability to sign Paul, or Deron Williams, in 2012, plus build a championship-caliber roster.

This looks like it could go one of three ways, assuming the Nets (or some other team) doesn’t step up with a new offer:

1. The Knicks and Nuggets come to terms. Trade is executed before the trade deadline.
The Knicks would like to acquire Carmelo now, but they don’t want to sell the farm to get him. The Newsday piece states that the Knicks are willing to give up Danilo Gallinari OR Wilson Chandler, and are willing to give up Raymond Felton for Chauncey Billups as well. Rookies Landry Fields and Timofey Mosgov, as well as Anthony Randolph, are also up for discussion.

I don’t think it would be wise to give up more than two of the following four players: Gallinari, Chandler, Fields or Mosgov. Fields is especially valuable since Anthony’s arrival woudn’t cut into his playing time, and he is arguably the Knicks’ best perimeter defender. Mosgov has also shown some flashes and is a 24-year-old legit seven-footer, so he has quite a bit of value as a prospect. It will be interesting to see whether or not the Knicks and Nuggets can come to terms. The article also states that the Nets thought they had a done deal before the Nuggets came back asking for more. The same thing might be happening here.

2. No trade is made. Anthony signs with the Knicks in the summer.
We don’t know if Carmelo wants to play in New York so badly that he’s willing to pass up $65 million in guaranteed money. This would be the ideal option for the Knicks, because they’d be able to sign him outright without having to give up many assets. But with the uncertainty of a new collective bargaining agreement looming large…

3. Carmelo panics when no trade is made and signs extension with Denver.
He could very well decide that playing in New York is not worth passing up the guaranteed money. Ideally, he’d get traded to the Knicks and sign the three-year extension with New York, but if the trade doesn’t go down, the money might be too good to pass up. He’s already admitted that he would take a long look at signing the extension if he isn’t moved before the trade deadline.

The thing to look for as the next week progresses is whether or not the key names in this trade are suiting up for games. If a deal is imminent, teams will usually rest players so that they don’t suffer a deal-breaking injury before the trade is finalized, so if Carmelo suddenly misses a start, we know something is likely to happen soon.

Did the Knicks turn down Nuggets’ latest trade offer?

New York Knicks Timofey Mozgov and Danilo Gallinari react in the final seconds the fourth quarter against the Detroit Pistons at Madison Square Garden in New York City on January 30, 2011. The Knicks defeated the Pistons 124-106. UPI/John Angelillo

According to Frank Isola of the New York Daily News, Donnie Walsh did indeed turn down the Nuggets’ latest trade offer involving Carmelo Anthony. Isola has a “team source close to the negotiations” that is probably with the Knicks given Isola’s job covering the team.

The Nuggets, according to a source, are asking for three starters – including Danilo Gallinari and Raymond Felton – plus Eddy Curry’s expiring contract and at least one first-round pick. In that proposed deal, Anthony and veteran point guard Chauncey Billups would be coming to the Knicks.

The third starter could be Landry Fields, Wilson Chandler or even Timofey Mozgov, though it should be noted that the trade only works as it stands with Mozgov included. More salary (Al Harrington?) would be needed from Denver’s end to balance things out if Chandler or Fields were included. One would think that the Nuggets would want to include Harrington in any deal, but I can’t imagine the Knicks are eager to take him back.

I suspect the Knicks would be most willing to give up Chandler and/or Gallinari, since Carmelo would be replacing a lot of their minutes on the wing. At this point, it would be tougher to part ways with Fields given his excellent all-around play this season as a rookie and cult status amongst the Knicks faithful. Felton is an interesting inclusion seeing that the Nuggets already have a point guard in Ty Lawson that is capable of becoming a good starter, but Felton probably has more long-term value than Billups at this point, so why not?

The saga continues.

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