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What are these guys worth? (Part 1)

You know you’ve made a fair deal when both parties think they got screwed.

It’s that time of year again. Restricted free agents from the class of 2004 (Emeka Okafor, Luol Deng, Josh Smith, etc.) are being wooed by teams that are hoping to make them an offer that their current team won’t match. Likewise, players from the class of 2005 (Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Andrew Bogut, etc.) can negotiate extensions with their respective teams that will keep them off the free agent market for the foreseeable future.

These negotiations are a battle of will and expectations. The player’s job (via his agent) is usually to squeeze as much money out of the team as he can. The team’s job is to sign the player to a contract that is a good value for the team. Naturally, the player’s camp brings up all the positives about the player while the franchise has to balance this with the player’s negatives to try to convince the agent (or the player) that they aren’t worth what they’re asking. Teams that repeatedly bow to players’ demands are sure to find themselves in salary cap hell before too long.

So in an effort to predict a market value for these players, I am going to take a look at their total value – performance (John Hollinger’s Player Efficiency Rating), age and potential – and try to come up with a yearly salary that fits with what other players of their caliber are making. I’ll list comparable players and their average salaries over the spans of their current contracts.

Let’s start with the class of 2004. These players are free to sign offer sheets from other teams, but their current team can (and usally do) match those offers. These are players that unsuccessfully negotiated extensions last summer, and since many NBA teams are reluctant to extend an offer to a restricted free agent, most of these players are likely to play out the final year of their rookie contract and become unrestricted free agents next summer.

Dwight Howard, Devin Harris, Al Jefferson and Kevin Martin took care of their extensions last year, while Beno Udrih just recently re-signed with the Kings. Here are the other big names, in their original draft order…

2004 DRAFTEES

Emeka Okafor, FC, Charlotte Bobcats
Age: 25
PER: 17.46
Comparables: Rasheed Wallace ($13.7 M), Zach Randolph ($16.0 M), Rashard Lewis ($20.5 M), Chris Wilcox ($6.8 M), Lamar Odom ($14.6 M), Chris Kaman ($10.9 M), Tyson Chandler ($11.4 M)

Okafor’s value is kind of tough to pin down. He’s more of a center-type, but he and the Bobcats want to play him at power forward. His comparables are all over the board, but the two guys who most resemble his game (and don’t have outrageous contracts) are Kaman and Chandler. Like those guys, Okafor is a double-double guy with decent (but not great) offensive skills. Okafor turned down a five-year, $60 million contract last summer, but that’s right in line with his value.
Value: $12.0 M – $12.5 M per year

Ben Gordon, SG, Chicago Bulls
Age: 25
PER: 16.52
Comparables: Richard Hamilton ($11.0 M), Mike Dunleavy ($9.8 M), Joe Johnson ($14.6 M), Mike Miller ($9.4 M), Jamal Crawford ($9.4 M), Leandro Barbosa ($6.6 M)

Last summer, Gordon turned down an extension worth $50 million over five years, which was a fair offer from the Bulls. At 6’3”, Gordon is small for a shooting guard, so he has trouble covering bigger off guards on the defensive end. He’s a terrific scorer, however. Of these comparables, I’d only rather have Hamilton, Johnson and maybe Miller, so I’d say that Gordon’s value is a bit more than what the Bulls offered him last summer.
Value: $10.5 M – $11.0 M per year

Josh Childress, SF, Atlanta Hawks
Age: 25
PER: 17.84
Comparables: Josh Howard ($10.9 M), Ron Artest ($8.5 M), Hedo Turkoglu ($6.9 M), Gerald Wallace ($9.5 M)

Childress continues to fly under the radar for three main reasons: 1) he plays with Josh Smith, 2) he comes off the bench and 3) he’s a jack of all trades and a master of none. His value is depressed because he doesn’t play as many minutes as his comparables, but at 30 minutes per game, he’s only averaging 5-8 fewer minutes that the rest of these guys. Given all the facts, it is unlikely that he’ll sign for his true value, so some lucky team is going to get a nice deal at some point in the next 12 months.
Value: $8.5 M – $9.5 M per year

Luol Deng, SF, Chicago Bulls
Age: 23
PER: 17.07
Comparables: Josh Howard ($10.9 M), Ron Artest ($8.5 M), Hedo Turkoglu ($6.9 M), Gerald Wallace ($9.5 M), Richard Jefferson ($14.1 M)

Like Gordon, Deng turned down a five-year extension worth $50 million, so it’s clear that his camp feels that he has more value than all of his comparables save Jefferson. Deng is a scorer, so his profile is subsequently higher than a guy like Josh Childress. With his name coming up in all the Kobe trade talk, he had a disappointing season, so the perception is he’ll bounce back (though I’d argue that he showed a lack of mental toughness by not playing through that). Plus, at 23, he’s younger than most of the guys on this list, so there is still a lot of upside in his game.
Value: $11.0 M – $12.0 M per year

Andre Iguodala, SF, Philadelphia 76ers
Age: 24
PER: 19.05
Comparables: Paul Pierce ($19.8 M), Josh Howard ($10.9 M), Ron Artest ($8.5 M), Hedo Turkoglu ($6.9 M), Gerald Wallace ($9.5 M), Richard Jefferson ($14.1 M)

Iggy stuffs the stat sheet for a mediocre team, so the Sixers are probably wise to let him test the market a bit. Popular opinion is that he’s not going to be a talent on the same level as Paul Pierce or Kobe Bryant, so a max deal should be out of the question. The Bucks went through something similar with Michael Redd a few years back… just because a guy is the best player on his team doesn’t make him a franchise (or a max) player. Iggy turned down a $57 M extension, so it’s clear that he has a lot of confidence in himself.
Value: $12.0 M – $13.0 M per year

Andris Biedrins, C, Golden State Warriors
Age: 22
PER: 19.18
Comparables: Chris Kaman ($10.9 M), Tyson Chandler ($11.4 M)

Biedrins’ value is another tough one to pin down. The Warriors play at a very high pace so his numbers (10.5 points, 9.8 rebounds) are a little inflated. He’s not a guy you can give the ball to on the block and expect him to score. He’s more like Chandler in that he’s going to get his points off put backs, which is why his FG% (63%) is so high. He’s young for his class, which adds to his upside, but one wonders if he’ll ever develop a low post game. I’d rather have Kaman or Chandler, and I don’t know where else Biedrins averages a double-double, so I don’t think he deserves a deal averaging more than $10 M per season.
Value: $8.0 M – $9.0 M per year (buyer beware)

Josh Smith, F, Atlanta Hawks
Age: 22
PER: 19.08
Comparables: David West ($9.1 M), Antawn Jamison ($12.5 M), Zach Randolph ($16.0 M)

Teams are drooling over Smoov’s potential, and they should be. He’s just 22 and is already in the top 40 in PER. For their part, the Hawks have said they will match any offer, but Atlanta’s fractured ownership has a few teams wondering if the Hawks would balk at a max (or a near-max) contract. Is he worth it? I don’t think it’s a no-brainer. His accuracy from long-range and from the charity stripe hasn’t improved over the last three seasons and his FG% (46%) isn’t great for a guy who gets so many dunks. The Hawks offered him $45 million last summer and he (wisely) turned it down. Barring injury, he’s going to get much more either this season or next.
Value: $13.0 M – $14.0 M per year

J.R. Smith, SG, Denver Nuggets
Age: 22
PER: 18.15

Comparables: Richard Hamilton ($11.0 M), Mike Dunleavy ($9.8 M), Joe Johnson ($14.6 M), Mike Miller ($9.4 M), Jamal Crawford ($9.4 M), Leandro Barbosa ($6.6 M)
Smith’s situation is similar to Gordon’s, only he’s three years younger, three inches taller and has a reputation for clashing with coaches and getting in trouble off the court. He has all the offensive ability to be a great off guard in the NBA, but his commitment to defense has been questioned and this, coupled with his bad rep, severely depresses his value around the league.
Value: $6.5 M – $7.5 M per year (buyer beware)

Delonte West, PG, Cleveland Cavaliers
Age: 24
PER: 12.13
Comparables: Leandro Barbosa ($6.6 M), Beno Udrih ($6.0 M), Jameer Nelson ($6.7 M)

Looking at these comparables, it seems like it would be easy to gauge West’s value. The only problem is that, for the season, West didn’t play as well as Nelson or Barbosa, and I think the Kings overspent on Udrih. West had a PER of 15.11 in his second season with the Celtics and showed similar flashes once he showed up in Cleveland. He’s an injury risk, but I think the Cavs would be wise to lock him up to a less than mid-level deal.
Value: $4.0 M – $5.0 M per year

Sasha Vujacic, SG, Los Angeles Lakers
Age: 24
PER: 15.06
Comparables: Leandro Barbosa ($6.6 M), Anthony Parker ($4.6 M), John Salmons ($5.5 M)

The main thing that Vujacic brings is shooting (44% from long range). He is bad off the dribble and can’t do much else offensively. Defensively, he brings a lot of energy, but as Ray Allen proved in the Finals, Sasha doesn’t make great decisions when fighting through screens. The Lakers should be careful here as they are probably bidding against themselves, and history has proven that they don’t do a very good job when they’re in that situatoin. (Exhibit A: Luke Walton’s six-year, $30 million deal.)
Value: $3.0 M – $3.5 M per year

Click here to see the class of 2005.

Peter King says Favre saga “far from over”

Love him or hate him, Peter King writes for Sports Illustrated, and he doesn’t think this Brett Favre story is going away anytime soon.

We are early in what I can guarantee will be a very tumultuous month in the recurring Brett Favre will-he-or-won’t-he saga, and what I can tell you for sure is this: Number 4 wants to play football again, and the Green Bay Packers desperately do not want him to.

I fully expect Favre’s agent to send a letter to the Packers within the next 10 days, stating that Favre, 38, wants to be taken off the National Football League’s reserve/retired list. At that point, the team will have no choice but to re-admit the league’s most accomplished statistical quarterback ever back to football, and general manager Ted Thompson and McCarthy will have a decision to make that you can be sure is keeping them up nights. They can take Favre and his $12.8-million cap number back onto the team and give him his starting job back, or they can trade him, or they can release him.

Every one of those options makes the Packers wretch.

Can you imagine what [Aaron] Rodgers would think if McCarthy came to him this week and said, “I know you’ve been working hard getting ready to start for us, and we’ve promised you the starting job, but we’re going to bring Brett back for one year. Or two. Or three.” If I were Rodgers, and I’d already waited through three years without starting a game, and Favre returned, I know what I’d tell McCarthy. That’s fine, Mike. But I will never sign another contract with the Packers. After 2009, whatever happens, I’m gone.

Say they accept Favre back, then try to trade him. They’re going to get, what, a third-round pick from Tampa Bay or the New York Jets or Washington for him? They’ll forever be known as the men who sent the greatest Packer packing.

Say the Packers allow Favre his freedom, which I think ultimately is what Favre wants if he doesn’t get his starting job back in Green Bay. Overwhelmingly the team that makes the most sense to sign Favre for a couple of years is Minnesota.

Imagine Favre in purple. It’s an absolutely vomitous scenario for the Packers, imagining Favre playing for their arch-rivals — and imagining Favre charging out of the tunnel at Lambeau Field for the opening game of the 2008 season. Lambeau Field, “Monday Night Football,” the night Favre was supposed to have his number retired for the Packers.

Which is why I believe the Packers, even though they desperately want Favre to stay retired, will take him back if he presses the issue.

I keep hearing Favre was pushed into retirement by the Packers demanding an early decision this off-season, or by Thompson not showing him enough love. He might feel that way, but I think it’s nonsense. Favre stood up in front of the world six weeks after he played his last game and said he was finished. If he’s not, the Packers are not to blame. He is. He’ll have to take the consequences for returning, either in Green Bay (where he shouldn’t expect a hug from Rodgers) or elsewhere. But right now, I believe the heart is telling Favre to play, and what the heart wants, the heart usually gets.

As a Packer fan, this whole situation is disheartening. It was tough enough dealing with Favre’s retirement, but this is turning into a nightmare. Trade Brett Favre? Release Brett Favre? Brett Favre playing for the Vikings? The mere thought of these things sends a chill up my spine.

If the Packers bring him back, and let him wear the green and gold, this story is going to follow the team around all year. If he doesn’t have a great year, the question will be a constant – should he have come back at all? If they do bring Favre back, forget about Aaron Rodgers ever playing quarterback for (or re-signing with) the Packers. He’ll want a fresh start, and I don’t blame him, not after all of this.

Everything goes back to Favre’s decision to retire in the first place. He was coming off a terrific season and his team almost made the Super Bowl. Why retire?

It sounds like he’s asking himself the same question.

Does Favre want to play for the Panthers?

I hesitate to even post this, because the “article” doesn’t cite any real source, but ProFootballTalk.com is “reporting” that Brett Favre’s agent Bus Cook is “privately” saying that Favre wants to play for the Carolina Panthers.

For his part, Favre tried to squash the rumors yesterday saying that there was nothing to the reports that he wanted to come back, but this is the internet age, so the rumors won’t die… especially if they’re true.

Only time will tell.

Scoop Jackson said something stupid today

I’m not sure why, but I was watching ESPN’s “First Take” this morning and the subject of Elton Brand came up. Scoop Jackson and Skip Bayless debated what Brand should do now that he has two offers on the table, one from the Clippers and one from the Warriors.

Jackson said – and I’m paraphrasing here – that since the Warriors made Brand a max offer that it is “honorable” to consider it and go and talk to them about it because this might not be the last contract that Brand will sign and he might need the Warriors down the road. He went on to say that if the Clippers match the Warriors offer (which they can’t) then all bets are off.

What?

I don’t find myself agreeing with Bayless too often, but he was (as usual) acting incredulous that Jackson could call such actions “honorable” since it was Brand who told the Clippers to go after Baron Davis when he opted out and even said that Brand recruited Davis to come to L.A. to play with him.

The honorable thing to do is to forsake the extra $20 million and re-up with the Clippers.

Bayless knows this, I know this and I suspect even Jackson knows this. This was probably part of the manufactured conflict that is so prevalent on ESPN these days. It’s not enough to just discuss issues intelligently; there has to be an argument because that’s (apparently) what gets ratings.

What a sad world we live in that Jackson has to say something so stupid just to get people to watch.

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