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		<title>Who has the &#8220;thinnest line&#8221; in the NBA?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 19:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Paulsen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is a &#8220;thin line,&#8221; you ask? Well, I&#8217;m not 100% sure I coined it, but it&#8217;s my term for a player who scores, but brings almost nothing else &#8212; rebounds, assists, steals or blocks &#8212; to the table. In order to determine who has the thinnest line in the NBA, I divided the player&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
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<p>What is a &#8220;thin line,&#8221; you ask? Well, I&#8217;m not 100% sure I coined it, but it&#8217;s my term for a player who scores, but brings almost nothing else &#8212; rebounds, assists, steals or blocks &#8212; to the table.</p>
<p>In order to determine who has the thinnest line in the NBA, I divided the player&#8217;s points by the sum of their rebounds, assists, steals and blocks to come up with the Thin Line Ratio (TLR). The bigger the number, the thinner the line.</p>
<p>To be eligible, a player has to average at least 20 minutes per game. And to be fair to the biggest scorers in the league, if their rebounds, assists, steals and blocks add up to 10+ per game, then they&#8217;re not eligible. So players like Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Durant, Danny Granger and Kobe Bryant are in the clear. I figure any player who is posting 10+ in those four categories is bringing plenty to the table.</p>
<p>So here&#8217;s a look at the 10 thinnest lines in the NBA:</p>
<p><em>1. Kevin Martin (TLR: 2.89)<br />
2. Jamal Crawford (2.79)<br />
3. Marcus Thornton (2.69)<br />
4. Ben Gordon (2.51)<br />
5. Eric Gordon (2.43)<br />
6. Ray Allen (2.43)<br />
7. Jason Terry (2.36)<br />
8. Richard Hamilton (2.33)<br />
9. Corey Maggette (2.31)<br />
10. J.J. Redick (2.28)</em></p>
<p>Surprise, surprise&#8230;that&#8217;s a list of nine or ten shooting guards, depending on how you classify Corey Maggette (and maybe Jamal Crawford). These are players whose job it is to shoot the ball and they obviously embrace that role. You won&#8217;t see these players battling for rebounds or doing a lot of penetrate and dish.</p>
<p>The top point guard in TLR? Aaron Brooks (2.19), winner of this year&#8217;s Most Improved Player award.</p>
<p>The top small forward (other than Maggette)? Josh Howard (2.12)</p>
<p>The top power forward? Bill Walker (2.14), but he played in just 35 games. Al Harrington (2.12) was the next highest PF on the list.</p>
<p>The top center? Andrea Bargnani (1.91), but is he really a center? The next highest eligible center is Channing Frye (1.33).</p>
<p>Who has the thickest line (i.e. the lowest TLR)?</p>
<p><em>PG &#8211; Jason Kidd (0.61)<br />
SG &#8211; Thabo Sefolosha (0.72)<br />
SF &#8211; Luc Mbah a Moute (0.78)<br />
PF &#8211; Jared Jeffries (0.71)<br />
C &#8211; Marcus Camby (0.43)</em></p>
<p>Jason Kidd plus four defensive specialists. Boy, that would be some ugly offense, but they&#8217;d be a bitch to score on.</p>
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		<title>Q: Who scored the NBA&#8217;s 10 millionth point?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Paulsen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A: Ben Gordon Per NBA.com&#8230; It&#8217;s been over 63 years since New York&#8217;s Ossie Schectman scored the first basket in NBA history on Nov. 1, 1946, at Maple Leaf Gardens, and tonight Ben Gordon of the Detroit Pistons scored the 10 millionth point in NBA regular season history. It was Gordon&#8217;s successful jumpshot at The [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.nba.com/2010/news/01/09/NBA.point.milestone/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt2" target="_blank">Per NBA.com&#8230;</a></p>
<blockquote><p>It&#8217;s been over 63 years since New York&#8217;s Ossie Schectman scored the first basket in NBA history on Nov. 1, 1946, at Maple Leaf Gardens, and tonight Ben Gordon of the Detroit Pistons scored the 10 millionth point in NBA regular season history.</p>
<p>It was Gordon&#8217;s successful jumpshot at The Palace of Auburn Hills with 3:51 remaining in the second quarter of the Pistons-76ers game that represented the 10,000,000th point in NBA history.</p></blockquote>
<p>These milestones are fairly random, but it&#8217;s interesting to look at a list of who scored every millionth point. Other than Moses Malone, <a href="http://www.nba.com/2010/news/01/09/NBA.point.milestone/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt2" target="_blank">every player on the list is a perimeter player</a>.</p>
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		<title>Gordon&#8217;s contract actually worth $58 million, maybe more</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Paulsen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When the Pistons signed Ben Gordon, most reports pinned the contract at about $55 million over five seasons. But Chicago Now has the real numbers and they are a bit higher. 09-10 $10,000,000 10-11 $10,800,000 11-12 $11,600,000 12-13 $12,400,000 13-14 $13,200,000 (Player Option) 5 Years for $58,000,000. He also has a clause for incentives which [...]]]></description>
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<p>When the Pistons signed Ben Gordon, most reports pinned the contract at about $55 million over five seasons. But <a href="http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2009/07/gordons-official-contract-numbers.html" target="_blank">Chicago Now</a> has the real numbers and they are a bit higher.</p>
<blockquote><p>09-10 $10,000,000<br />
10-11 $10,800,000<br />
11-12 $11,600,000<br />
12-13 $12,400,000<br />
13-14 $13,200,000 (Player Option)<br />
5 Years for $58,000,000.</p>
<p>He also has a clause for incentives which are considered unlikely (meaning he didn&#8217;t reach them last season), but I don&#8217;t specifically know what they are.</p>
<p>Ben Gordon came out ahead by taking the QO and was the first person to do so.  Now, even looking at the 5/50 offer the Bulls made, Gordon was the clear winner by waiting even disregarding the circumstances that at the time of the 5/50 offer he was the best or second best player on a team expected to contend for a championship.</p></blockquote>
<p>Gordon has a reputation for being a below average defender and he isn&#8217;t a playmaker. He&#8217;s a scorer, and sometimes he displays poor shot selection. I&#8217;ve said it before and I&#8217;ll say it again &#8212; I&#8217;m surprised that the Pistons made an offer this strong, especially since it turns out that the Bulls never even made an offer to Gordon this summer. I think Detroit will come to regret this contract, but only time will tell.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[The NBA offseason is by no means over, but the lion&#8217;s share is behind us, so it&#8217;s a good time to take a look back at a few of the&#8230;um&#8230;let&#8217;s say &#8220;questionable&#8221; decisions of the summer. Here are my Top 10, in no particular order. Feel free to add to the list if I missed [...]]]></description>
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<p>The NBA offseason is by no means over, but the lion&#8217;s share is behind us, so it&#8217;s a good time to take a look back at a few of the&#8230;um&#8230;let&#8217;s say &#8220;questionable&#8221; decisions of the summer. Here are my Top 10, in no particular order. Feel free to add to the list if I missed something. </p>
<p><strong>1. Trevor Ariza plays spiteful hardball&#8230;and loses.</strong><br />
Let&#8217;s get this straight &#8212; the Lakers offered Ariza the same deal he was getting on the open market, and he refused since the Lakers <em>could</em> have offered more, but didn&#8217;t? Um, okay. David Lee (the agent, not the Knicks forward) says that Ariza wanted to go somewhere where <a href="http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/sports/nba/090702_rockets_land_ariza" target="_blank">he&#8217;d be &#8220;appreciated.&#8221;</a> Lee overestimated the market for his client, and the Lakers quickly moved on to acquire Ron Artest. Now instead of playing for the world champs, Ariza is stuck in Houston on a team that faces a very uncertain future. Lee now says that Ariza turned down a deal worth $9 million more, but <em>still</em> picked Houston. It sounds to me like he&#8217;s just trying to save face.</p>
<p><strong>2. Grizzlies acquire Zach Randolph.</strong><br />
Once the Clippers traded for Randolph (and his toxic contract) last season, I thought the bar for NBA general managers had hit a new low thanks to Mike Dunleavy and his wily ways. But Dunleavy proved that he wasn&#8217;t the dumbest GM in the league when he convinced the Memphis Grizzlies to take on the final two years Randolph&#8217;s contract at the tune of $33.3 million. Remember that $25 million or so of cap space that the Grizzlies were going to have next summer? Yeah, that&#8217;s down to about $8 million with this brilliant move. Just when it looked like Chris Wallace was going to rehab his image after the Pau Gasol trade &#8212; Marc Gasol panning out, trading for O.J. Mayo &#8212; he goes and does this. Sigh.</p>
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<p><strong>3. T-Wolves draft both Ricky Rubio and Jonny Flynn with no (good) plan in place.</strong><br />
When GM David Kahn drafted two point guards with back to back picks, everyone around the league thought that he had a trade in place. Not so, according to Kahn, who likes the idea of playing two smallish, ball-dominating guards in the same backcourt. Now Rubio is threatening to stay in Europe for another year or two, and Kahn is seemingly happy to wait until Rubio finally makes his way to the NBA to see if his unorthodox plan (and that&#8217;s being kind) will ultimately work. </p>
<p><strong>4. The Magic trade for Vince Carter.</strong><br />
Let&#8217;s see, your team just lost in the Finals &#8212; losing two games in overtime &#8212; and your main ballhandler is a free agent. What do you do? It&#8217;s tough to create the kind of chemistry that gets a team to the Finals, so you re-sign him, right? Not the Orlando Magic, who balked at Hedo Turkoglu&#8217;s $10 million-per-season asking price and instead pulled the trigger on a trade for Vince Carter. So essentially they gave up their most consistent player (Turkoglu) and a budding star (Courtney Lee) for the 32-year-old Carter. A healthy Jameer Nelson (along with a savvy mid-level signing) may have been enough to put this Magic team over the top, but now we&#8217;ll never know.</p>
<p><strong>5. Pistons sign Ben Gordon for $11 million per season.</strong><br />
Look, I like Ben Gordon&#8230;for about $8 million per season. The guy is a great scorer, but he has sketchy shot selection at times and is a big liability on defense. For years, the Bulls didn&#8217;t even deem him good enough to start, but the Pistons are going to throw $11 million per year at him? And it turns out that they were bidding against themselves, as the Bulls <a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-gordon-bulls&#038;prov=ap&#038;type=lgns" target="_blank">didn&#8217;t even bother to make an offer</a> before Gordon signed with Detroit.</p>
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<p><strong>6. No one makes an offer (that we know of) to Ramon Sessions.<br />
7. The Bucks don&#8217;t extend one-year offer to Charlie Villanueva and lose him without compensation.<br />
8. The Bucks give away Richard Jefferson.</strong><br />
Let&#8217;s tackle my beloved Bucks all at once. First, they give away <strike>a former All-Star</strike> Jefferson in a salary dump. Then, they elect not to take the option to make Villanueva a restricted free agent, which allows the Pistons to sign him away without having to give the Bucks anything in return. I know why the Bucks made these moves &#8212; they don&#8217;t feel that this roster is worthy of being in luxury tax territory and I don&#8217;t disagree, but small market teams can&#8217;t give away assets for nothing. Yeah, maybe signing Villanueva for the final year of his rookie contract would have cost them $4 million or more, but they could have traded him for a young prospect or maybe a draft pick. And why didn&#8217;t they get a first rounder out of the Spurs for Jefferson? Small market teams have a tough time signing stars, so they have to build through the draft and via trade. Giving away the rights to a $7 million-per-season player (which is what the Pistons paid Villanueva) is not the way to get better. Lastly, why hasn&#8217;t anyone made RFA Ramon Sessions an offer? The Bucks have proven that they are trying to cut salary and they picked up Brandon Jennings in the draft. Does anyone really think that they&#8217;d match a significant ($4-$5 million per year) offer for Sessions? He had the 13th-highest PER amongst all point guards, and the 5th-highest amongst all point guards under the age of 26. Moreover, his +/- numbers are the best on the team for anyone who played more than 1200 minutes. Why hasn&#8217;t a team in need of point guard help (Portland?) jumped on this guy?</p>
<p><strong>9. The Suns give away Shaquille O&#8217;Neal.</strong><br />
Regular readers know that I&#8217;m <a href="http://www.scoresreport.com/2009/02/04/are-the-suns-thinking-about-trading-amare/">not fond of the job Steve Kerr is doing in Phoenix</a>. First, he trades Rudy Fernandez away for cash. Then he ruins one of the most exciting teams in NBA history by trading Shawn Marion for Shaquille O&#8217;Neal. Now he seemingly admits that the Shaq trade was all for naught by giving him away in a salary dump. Shaq made the Third Team All-NBA last year, and Kerr traded him for Ben Wallace and Sasha Pavlovic&#8217;s expiring contracts. Geesh.</p>
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<p><strong>10. Six teams pass on DeJuan Blair IN THE SECOND ROUND!</strong><br />
When I first heard that there were concerns about Blair&#8217;s knees, I thought he might fall into the bottom third of the first round. Even if the guy is missing ligaments in his knees, he was still one of the best rebounders in all of college basketball last season and he ate up #2 pick Hasheem Thabeet in Connecticut. When Blair fell into the second round I was stunned as the Kings, Wizards, Blazers, Nuggets, Pistons and Grizzlies all passed on Blair. A second round pick doesn&#8217;t require the same kind of financial commitment as a first round pick, so there&#8217;s very little downside if the guy doesn&#8217;t pan out. Blair fell and fell, right into the inviting arms of the Spurs, who will be lucky to have him on the roster for the foreseeable future. </p>
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		<title>Pistons come to terms with Gordon, Villanueva</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Paulsen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Detroit Pistons have a ton of cap space heading into 2009 NBA free agency, and they apparently aren&#8217;t afraid to use it, agreeing in principle to contracts with Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva. Former Bulls guard Gordon will receive a five-year deal for between $55 million and $60 million, while former Bucks forward Villanueva [...]]]></description>
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<p>The Detroit Pistons have a ton of cap space heading into 2009 NBA free agency, and they apparently aren&#8217;t afraid to use it, agreeing in principle <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4301111" target="_blank">to contracts with Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Former Bulls guard Gordon will receive a five-year deal for between $55 million and $60 million, while former Bucks forward Villanueva gets a five-year deal for $40 million, sources told ESPN.com&#8217;s Chris Broussard.</p>
<p>Gordon rejected deals from Chicago in excess of $50 million each of the past two seasons. Milwaukee elected to let the 24-year-old Villanueva become an unrestricted free agent earlier this week, after the Bucks determined that matching any restricted free-agent offers would move the team closer to the luxury tax threshold and limit changing the roster.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s not surprising that the Pistons signed both of these players, but the value of the contracts seem a little high when taking the current economic climate into consideration. It seems like GM Joe Dumars is operating in a 2006 or 2007 mindset when the reality is that the demand for these players probably didn&#8217;t justify $11 million per season for Gordon and $8 millon per season for Villanueva.</p>
<p>There are only <a href="http://www.scoresreport.com/2009/05/14/which-nba-teams-will-have-cap-space-this-summer/" target="_blank">eight teams with significant cap space this summer</a> &#8212; the Grizzlies, Pistons, Hawks, Thunder, Kings, Raptors, Blazers and Timberwolves &#8212; and Memphis, OKC and Minnesota weren&#8217;t expected to be big players this offseason. The Bulls were trying to re-sign Gordon, and they probably were in the same neighborhood of the two deals they offered over the last two years that averaged $10 million and $9 million per season, so Detroit may have felt they had to outbid Chicago to pry him away. But I just don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s worth it, given his defensive liabilities and his lack of size for an off guard.</p>
<p>As for Villanueva, he was intrigued with the possibility of playing with LeBron James and Shaquille O&#8217;Neal in Cleveland, but they could only offer him a mid-level deal, which would probably start at around $5.5 million per season. Even though his new contract&#8217;s $8 million per season average is the first thing to jump out, we need to focus on the first season. The contract could very well start at $6 million and go up $1 million per season for five years, which would add up to $40 million. They needed to outbid the mid-level deal to convince Villanueva to join a non-contender. Still, that&#8217;s a big commitment for a player who has a reputation for being a poor defender and has had his work ethic questioned at time. But at 24, Villanueva is still learning and is already a proven scorer.</p>
<p>This Gordon signing may indicate that Rip Hamilton will be moved before next February&#8217;s trade deadline. Though he&#8217;s getting older, he&#8217;s still a highly efficient scorer and he&#8217;d definitely be able to help a contender. I doubt that it&#8217;s Dumars&#8217; plan to have $22 million locked up per season at one position. If Hamilton is moved, then the Pistons would be building around a lineup of Rodney Stuckey, Gordon, Tayshaun Prince and Villanueva.</p>
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		<title>NBA Free Agency Rumors: Turk, Charlie V, Millsap and more</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Paulsen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pistons, Blazers interested in Hedo Turkoglu. The Oregonian reports Blazers general manager Kevin Pritchard and assistant general manager Tom Penn called agent Lon Babby last night to begin the courtship of Hedo Turkoglu. With Carlos Boozer out of the picture, an NBA source tells the Chicago Sun-Times that Turkoglu is now the Pistons&#8217; first choice [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.suntimes.com/sports/basketball/bulls/1646531,CST-SPT-bull01.article" target="_blank">Pistons</a>, <a href="http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2009/06/blazers_pursue_hedo_turkoglu_a.html" target="_blank">Blazers</a> interested in Hedo Turkoglu.</p>
<blockquote><p>The Oregonian reports Blazers general manager Kevin Pritchard and assistant general manager Tom Penn called agent Lon Babby last night to begin the courtship of Hedo Turkoglu.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>With Carlos Boozer out of the picture, an NBA source tells the Chicago Sun-Times that Turkoglu is now the Pistons&#8217; first choice in free agency.</p></blockquote>
<p>While the Blazers&#8217; interest has long been rumored, Detroit&#8217;s interest is a little surprising. They already have a very good small forward on the roster in Tayshaun Prince, so unless they&#8217;re planning to play Turkoglu at the four, someone is going to lose some minutes. Of the two teams, the Pistons have more cap space, so if they want him, they can get him. (And what about Ben Gordon?)</p>
<p>Charlie V <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&#038;page=Chatter-090701" target="_blank">ahead of Turkoglu</a> on the Pistons&#8217; wishlist?</p>
<blockquote><p>Chicago&#8217;s Ben Gordon remains the backcourt player deeply coveted by the Pistons, but the prospect of a Gordon-and-Villanueva combo likely would be slightly cheaper than trying to sign Gordon and Turkoglu with Detroit&#8217;s nearly $19 million in projected salary-cap space.</p></blockquote>
<p>The Pistons may also be interested in Paul Millsap, but anytime a team signs a restricted free agent to an offer sheet, that money is tied up for a week while his current team decides to match. That makes signing an RFA a dicey prospect.</p>
<p>I wonder if the Bucks are regretting letting Villanueva given the amount of interest he&#8217;s generating from their division rivals (Detroit and Cleveland).</p>
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<p>Knicks <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2009/07/01/2009-07-01_kidds_midnight_madness.html" target="_blank">not offering David Lee</a> what he wants?</p>
<blockquote><p>A team source claims the Knicks will offer David Lee a four-year deal worth $32M, reports the New York Daily News.</p>
<p>Lee and his agent are asking for $10M per season.</p></blockquote>
<p>Donnie Walsh is no dummy. Lee is an energy player, and those types of bigs don&#8217;t generally get the monster contracts that their back-to-the-basket counterparts do. Walsh knows that most players, given the choice, will want to play in New York, so he&#8217;s essentially daring another team to come with a strong enough offer to pry Lee away.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scoresreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/divider.gif"><img src="http://www.scoresreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/divider-300x3.gif" alt="" title="divider" width="300" height="3" class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-20801" /></a></p>
<p>The Rockets <a href="http://my.nba.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5800027750" target="_blank">are interested</a> in Marcin Gortat.</p>
<blockquote><p>Rockets.com reports Houston wants Marcin Gortat so bad that Rockets&#8217; general manager Daryl Morey rang the door bell at Gortat&#8217;s Orlando-area home at 12:01 am this morning.
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<p>I like Morey&#8217;s style. While showing up at the house at midnight is a little stalker-ish, I think Gortat will let it slide. Morey even asked Rockets fans for help in recruiting Gortat by setting up an email account for them to send messages to show their support for the signing.</p>
<p>With Yao Ming out indefinitely, it makes sense that the Rockets would try to lock up another center. The Rockets are over the cap, so they can only offer a mid-level deal unless they can swing a sign-and-trade with Orlando.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.sltrib.com/jazz/ci_12727880" target="_blank">Jazz not deterred</a> &#8212; first to contact Paul Millsap.</p>
<blockquote><p>General manager Kevin O&#8217;Connor called at 10 p.m., according to Millsap&#8217;s agent, DeAngelo Simmons.</p>
<p>Simmons called O&#8217;Connor a &#8220;class act&#8221; for the gesture, adding, &#8220;I think it was great that they called and expressed their interest. That&#8217;s good on their part.&#8221;</p>
<p>Simmons is seeking a contract in the $10M a year range for Millsap.</p></blockquote>
<p>With Carlos Boozer and Mehmet Okur making the (semi-)surprising decisions to play another season in Utah, the Jazz are going to have to go well over the luxury tax threshold to re-sign Millsap. Utah is a small market team who usually has to overpay to convince free agents to come to (or to stay in) Salt Lake City. Already having Deron Williams locked up is a big bonus.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see where Millsap lands now that Boozer and Okur are off the market.</p>
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<p>Andre Miller <a href="http://www.philly.com/dailynews/sports/20090701_Bidding_begins_for_Sixers_to_keep_point_guard_Miller.html" target="_blank">wants to get paid</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We feel, from his body of work, Philadelphia should obviously reflect that in an offer, in appreciation for what he has done or what he can do for them in the future. We know the team has financial commitments elsewhere, but we also know Andre has continued to produce and deliver.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Everyone wants to get paid, but 33-year-old Miller is reportedly seeking a three-year deal worth $30 million. Anytime an agent starts talking about his client wanting &#8220;appreciation for what he has done,&#8221; it&#8217;s time to get a little worried. $10 million per season is way too much to pay Miller and his camp knows that the Sixers are probably the only team able to make that kind of an offer.</p>
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		<title>NBA Free Agency Rumors: Kidd, Turk, Gordon and much more</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Paulsen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pistons not willing to pony up for Boozer? The Pistons would love to sign Carlos Boozer should he decide today to opt out of the final year of his contract with the Jazz and become a free agent. However, if Boozer opts out, he would leave $12.6 million on the table in Utah. Thus, there [...]]]></description>
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<p>Pistons <a href="http://www.detnews.com/article/20090630/SPORTS0102/906300349/1127/Pistons--free-agent-targets--Ben-Gordon--Charlie-Villanueva" target="_blank">not willing to pony up</a> for Boozer?</p>
<blockquote><p>The Pistons would love to sign Carlos Boozer should he decide today to opt out of the final year of his contract with the Jazz and become a free agent.</p>
<p>However, if Boozer opts out, he would leave $12.6 million on the table in Utah. Thus, there is a good chance Boozer, as has been widely speculated, would look to start his next contract at $14 million or $15 million.</p>
<p>If that is the case, the Pistons most likely would walk away. </p></blockquote>
<p>Just because a guy asks for a contract starting at $14-$15 million doesn&#8217;t mean that the Pistons have to give it to him. If Boozer opts out, the Pistons are his most likely landing spot, so they set the market, not him. If he wants an unreasonable deal, they shouldn&#8217;t walk away, they should make an offer and give him some time to find a better one. Chances are that he won&#8217;t, and he&#8217;ll end up taking Detroit&#8217;s deal.</p>
<blockquote><p>Assuming Boozer does not dramatically reduce his asking price, the Pistons would go after Bucks forward Charlie Villanueva.</p>
<p>Villanueva will turn 25 in August and is coming off his best season. He averaged 16.2 points and 6.7 rebounds for the Bucks. </p>
<p>The Pistons could conceivably sign Gordon and Villanueva and still have money left over to pursue re-signing Antonio McDyess.</p></blockquote>
<p>I estimate Gordon&#8217;s value to be about $9 million, though he has turned down bigger offers from the Bulls in the past. Villanueva will probably get lots of MLE offers, so the Pistons would likely have to trump those to convince him to play in Detroit instead of Cleveland (or for another contender). So if Detroit signs both, expect them to pay at least $15.5-$16.0 million combined. That doesn&#8217;t leave a lot of space for McDyess.</p>
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<p>Jason Kidd is <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2009/06/30/2009-06-30_knicks_meeting_wednesday_with_free_agent_point_guard_former_net_jason_kidd.html" target="_blank">meeting with the Knicks</a>. According to the article if they don&#8217;t get Kidd, they may go after Ramon Sessions.</p>
<p>Kidd doesn&#8217;t seem like a very good fit for a team in the beginning stages of a rebuilding process, though the Knicks hope to accelerate that process by signing one or two big-name free agents next summer. I&#8217;m sure Kidd is interested in the prospects of being a part of that team, but it&#8217;s unclear how much of a role money will play in his decision. Unless they work out a sign-and-trade with the Mavs, the Knicks can only offer Kidd the mid-level exception (~$5.8 million).</p>
<p>As for Sessions, I think the Bucks are positioned to match any offer up to the mid-level, and I think that&#8217;s the top end of his market right now. Milwaukee would be wise to lock him up before next summer&#8217;s free-for-all.</p>
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<p>Hedo Turkoglu <a href="http://www.floridatoday.com/article/20090630/SPORTS16/906300318/1002/SPORTS/Turkoglu%20likely%20out%20for%20Magic" target="_blank">turned down a four-year extension worth $35 million</a> after the Finals.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;It&#8217;s going to be hard, but it&#8217;s not out of the question, and it&#8217;s certainly not out of our focus,&#8221; Vander Weide said of re-signing Turkoglu. &#8220;We didn&#8217;t do (the Carter trade) thinking automatically that Turk won&#8217;t be here. What you try to do in this league is collect assets, but occasionally you have to move those assets for something that&#8217;s a better fit. We still see Turk as an asset, and we&#8217;ll try to get something done, but we won&#8217;t know for a week or so what kind of deal we&#8217;re up against.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Four years is longer than I would want to go, but I think he&#8217;ll eventually regret passing that deal up. Stan Van Gundy and the Magic gave him the opportunity to thrive and it&#8217;s shortsighted to pass up the chance to play on a championship-caliber club for a few extra million. The Blazers, Raptors and Kings are said to be interested, but only Portland is a serious championship contender.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the Magic may very well be ruining a good thing buy acquiring Carter and letting Turkoglu walk. It&#8217;s not wise to drastically alter the face of a team that just went to the NBA Finals. And it&#8217;s not like the Lakers revealed some glaring deficiencies in the Magic roster. Sure, L.A. won in five games, but two of those wins were overtime games that could have gone either way. A healthy Jameer Nelson might have made the difference.</p>
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<p>Anderson Varejao is <a href="http://news-herald.com/articles/2009/06/30/sports/nh1108422.txt" target="_blank">going to test the market</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>The Cavs can go over the salary cap to sign Varejao, but he&#8217;s free to sign with any team. The Cavs will not be able to match any offer he gets.</p></blockquote>
<p>Varejao was slated to make around $6.2 million next season, so there isn&#8217;t much risk here. Someone will give him a multi-year mid-level deal, so he should get the security of guaranteed money. There&#8217;s no guarantee that the Cavs will bring him back because it will be tough to play both he and Shaq at the same time. </p>
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<p>Trevor Ariza&#8217;s agent, David Lee, says that the Lakers <a href="http://www.pe.com/sports/basketball/lakers/stories/PE_Sports_Local_S_lakers_30.3cd2531.html" target="_blank">won&#8217;t get a hometown discount</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;It&#8217;s a question of how committed the Lakers are to competing again,&#8221; Lee said. &#8220;If everyone else stood still, you could see what happens when a piece is missing, but the reality is teams out there are positioning themselves to be competitive. When other teams are getting better, you can&#8217;t afford to rest on your laurels.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;If you&#8217;re doing a one-year or two-year deal, you could have all sorts of conversations about the Artests or the Turkoglus,&#8221; Lee said, &#8220;but if you&#8217;re talking a five-year deal, Trevor&#8217;s going to be 28 and those guys are going to be 35.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>So if some other team offers Ariza a deal averaging $6.5 million per year and the Lakers make an offer that averages $6.3 million, Ariza won&#8217;t stay in L.A.? If he does, that would be the definition of a hometown discount. I think most players would agree to some sort of a discount to stay put (especially on a championship team in sunny Los Angeles), it&#8217;s just a matter of how much.</p>
<p>I think Ariza&#8217;s floor is the mid-level.</p>
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<p>Andre Miller <a href="http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20090630_Andre_Miller_is_76ers__No__1_concern.html?viewAll=y" target="_blank">wants $30 million</a>?</p>
<blockquote><p>One source has said Miller will be seeking around $10 million a year, which is what he earned last season, and that he will more than likely desire a minimum contract length of three years.</p>
<p>Stefanski said a sign-and-trade was &#8220;a possibility.&#8221;</p>
<p>In layman&#8217;s terms: The Sixers are over the salary cap. If they do not re-sign Miller, they cannot offer his salary to another player on the free-agent market. Per NBA rules, the Sixers are allowed to re-sign their own guy.</p></blockquote>
<p>The Blazers are supposedly interested, though I think $10 million per season is pretty steep for a 33 year-old, especially for a three-year deal. I estimated his value to be <a href="http://www.scoresreport.com/2009/06/28/2009-nba-free-agency-preview-the-top-unrestricted-free-agents/">$6-$7 million per season</a>, but I could see him signing for a bit more. My guess is that a lot of these guys are going to have to lower expectations once free agency begins.</p>
<p>Brandon Bass is <a href="http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/basketball/mavs/stories/063009dnspomavslede.401be0c.html" target="_blank">hoping for the mid-level</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Bass will be seeking the mid-level exception. Because he has been with the Mavericks for two seasons, they can offer him any annual salary up to the exception without actually using their exception.</p>
<p>The mid-level is expected to be between $5 million and $5.5 million. </p></blockquote>
<p>That seems fair, if a bit high. <a href="http://www.scoresreport.com/2009/06/28/2009-nba-free-agency-preview-the-top-unrestricted-free-agents/#more-20667">I pegged his value somewhere in the $4.5-$5.5 million per year range</a>. I think Bass is a starter-quality power forward, and at 24, he has some upside.</p>
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