Is the dynasty over? Ravens wax Patriots in Foxboro.
Consider this:
- A Bill Belichick-coached team has never allowed 24 points in the first quarter of any game.
- The Patriots haven’t allowed more than 20 points in a home playoff game since 1978, when they lost to the Houston Oilers, 31-14.
- The most points New England allowed at home this year was 24 to the Bills in Week 1. The Pats were undefeated while playing at Foxboro this season.
To say the Ravens beat the Patriots on Sunday would be a vast understatement. In its 33-14 blowout, Baltimore dominated in every phase of the game, was clearly the more prepared team and set the tone from the first play (which was a 83-yard touchdown run by Ray Rice, by the way) to the last.
I don’t want to sound like another member of the media that overstates things after just one game, but you have to wonder whether or not we just witnessed the end of the Patriots’ dynasty. There were signs all season that this wasn’t the same team that we had grown accustomed to over the past decade and all of their faults were on full display on Sunday.
I don’t know if he was hurt or not, but Tom Brady didn’t look right. Like many times this season, he looked uncomfortable in the pocket, was high with his passes and made poor decisions. There were times when he didn’t have any time to throw, but even when he did he was inaccurate. It was just a brutal effort on his part, and on Belichick’s for that matter.
Based on the way they recognized formations and diagnosed plays, it was almost like the Ravens were in the Patriots’ huddle every snap. That’s on Belichick and his coaching staff for not having a better game plan in place. I realize New England was shorthanded without Wes Welker, but even if he had played I don’t know how much he would have helped.
Give credit to the Ravens – they were outstanding. Rice (159 yards), Willis McGahee and the rest of the running game was excellent and so was the defense. They had the right game plan, were fired up from the start and they executed. They’ve proven two years in a row that they can win on the road in the playoffs and John Harbaugh deserves a lot of credit for having his team prepared.
The Ravens came thisclose to beating the Colts in the regular season, so next weekend should be interesting. Of course, Joe Flacco will need to throw for more than 34 yards to match Peyton Manning, but a Colts-Ravens matchup should be a great one to tune into.
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not with those two first round picks one being from oakland there in good shape most importantly their divison is traditionaly not great and pretty much owned by them
I think the Pats knew that this would be a rebuilding year. As long as Brady is healthy they always have a shot, and he probably needed this year just to get his legs back. If he can rest this offseason he should be fine.
They traded Seymour for the extra pick, and now they need to rebuild their defense. They also need to recommit to the running game. If they do that they can still be in the mix in the future.
Dynasty? Pats IMO have never been a dynasty!Sure, they won 3 SBs, but each one by 3 points. Hah!
Jim…I’m not saying you’re wrong because it’s your opinion, but if the Patriots aren’t a dynasty, who exactly WOULD you consider to be?
The Patriots have won 9 or more regular season games every year for the last 9 seasons (107-37) including 8 seasons with double digit wins, 1 a perfect 16-0 regular season, 7 division titles, 4 superbowl appearance (in 7 years), 3 superbowl wins (in 4 years), a 14-4 postseason record, and 9 consecutive postseason victories.
Other than the Steelers of the 70′s, the 49ers of the 80′s, and the Cowboys of the 90′s, what other team has had that kind of success? And the fact that they did it in the free agent-salary cap era, makes their accomplishments even more astonishing. I’m not a Pats fan, but I’d like to see what your idea of a dynasty is if what I just laid out isn’t one.
I don’t know what constitutes a dynasty,apparently it’s the points you win a Super Bowl by or how many wins the team gets over a decade.At any rate clearly the Patriots aren’t the team they were,but come to think of it neither are the 49′ers or up till now the Cowboys either !!!
I would consider them a dynasty with all their accomplishments. I would also include the Dolphins of the early 70s and the Packers of the 60s and the Browns under Paul Brown (going waaay back now!).
I do not care for the term dynasty–it’s a term used by lazy sports pseudo-journalists. The 60s Packers, 1970s Steelers, 1980s 49ers, and the 90s Cowboys had one thing in common. They lost zero Super Bowls in their “dynastic” eras.
The Patriots lost a Super Bowl. Also, those “dynasties” won Super Bowls by decisive margins, as when the 49ers thrashed San Diego by 20+ points. The Patriots narrowly won three Super Bowls, each by a mere field goal. “Dynastic” or not, that is not a very clear demonstration of dominance or superiority.
Dynasty: A powerful group or family that maintains it’s position for a considerable time. Who cares how much they won by..they won often and when it mattered most, more than any other team in that time period, for a decade.
I’ve been a Pats fan for many years – not just when they are winning – the same as I am a Red Sox fan. This is true during the lean yaers as well as during the good years. I have to say that I was very surprised at some of the moves Belechick made throughout the year including the peronnel moves and some of the plays during the year.
Against the Ravens they played like high school kids. They had no defense. They couldn’t stop the run. And basically they had vewry little offense. They had no running game, as usual. I don’t know if Brady ever had 4 turnoveras in one game before (3 picks and a fumble) but I don’t th9ink so. They had better sit down and decide what they need in the draft. In recent years they haven’t realyy done too well – with a few notable exceptions. I think that they are the team of the decade but based on what they did prior to 2008. 08 and 09 were really bad. I hope they turn it around next year. I also hope they resign Wilfork.
What the Pats need to do is get a better offensive cordinator and draft some recievers because all year you knew the ball was either going to Moss, Welker, or Faulk
Does Spygate skew anyone’s answer to this question? I certainly don’t dispute that Brady is a great QB and the team on the field was a good one. But I would love to know if they would have been as good had they not had “an edge”. We’ll never know the full extent of it, but taping and reviewing the other teams signals sure seems like a big advantage.
I wholeheartedly agree with T-bone! Jim, get a life! Stop and think about what it takes to get to one superbowl, never mind 4 in a decade, win three of them and always be considered a threat if your team got into the playoffs! Who cares if you win the superbowl by 3, 23 or 103 points, you were the World Champions of THE NFL! Don’t forget, if the head guy in stripes had been doing his job, NY doesn’t win that superbowl the year the Patriots were going for perfection. Manning was clearly in the grasp, not by one but two Patriots defensemen. In any other game that would have been called as in the grasp and the Giants never get that first down. Look what has happened to the Giants since that game. Everyone says the Patriots had a hangover! PLEASE!!! Last year they bounced back with a record that in any other year would have solidly had them in the playoffs and don’t you think teams in the playoffs were breathing a sigh of relief because the PATS were locked and loaded if they had gotten in! No one wanted to play them even with essentially a rookie quarterback. Where are the big bad Giants these days. Yeah, right back in the cellar. Who had the hangover???? No one has had the player or front office turnover that the Pats have experienced in this era of free agency and still had their success year after year. DYNASTY, hell yes!
try giving the ravens some credit for the win . they played the best game of their season. the defense was very focused andspot on. the offense was DETERMINED to control the line of scrimage. i believe the pats are a very good team, but were not ready for the task at hand. mike.
Spygate was a big bunch of media hype. Every team in the NFL did what the Patriots did at one time or another and they proved it. Get real, video taping gave them 3 superbowl wins. Teams are still video taping each other, they are just smarter about it and know how to do it so they don’t get caught & get in trouble. It’s just much more sophisticated now than it was a few years ago when the Pats got their hands slapped. Team are still video taping each other, trust me. That will never stop.
The Ravens deserve all the credit in the world like you said Anonymous. They were well prepared and took it to the Pats at every turn. The Pats looked like they were still mourning the loss of Wes Welker instead of getting over it and being prepared for their next opponent like they always seemed to be able to do in the past. This year their new offensive and defensive coordinators just couldn’t seem to make it click consistently week after week. That inconsistency finally caught up with them and they couldn’t have picked a worse time to not show up on either side of the ball. Like Steve Grogan said on Grogan’s grade, they failed and there was no sugar coating it. No excuses from the Pats, they agreed the better team won on Sunday too.
I congratulate and applaud the Ravens – they did what they had to do. They dominated the line of scrimmage on defense and controlled the line of scrimmage on offense. They took the Patriots out of their game and didn’t rely on Flacco to win the game… They ran all over NE.
That said, I fully expected this to be a rebuilding year (I expected the ‘fins and Jets to be ahead of them in the division after the Seymour trade). I think they got a second rounder this year and a 1st round from Oakland next year…???
Brady will be in much better shape next year!
Uh T-bone theres that little factor called “cheating” that we have to take into affect. Since being got theve been cursed. Lol
Thats an easy excuse that I am tired of hearing. “Everyone does it” Lol the Steelers of the 70′s and Niners of the 80′s etc were never connected to that kind of embarassment.
First of all, when the coach cant even look the opposing coach in the eye and tell him congrats or shake his hand after a loss is pathetic and poor sportsmanship. And secondly when ur QB begs and gets calls from the refs. Lol They aught to put a skirt on that tootsie roll. Lol The men of STEEL won 6 S-bowls without cheating and with class and dignity. Based on those facts I would have to say the Cheatriots organization is not even in the same class as the Steelers.
Its funny how “carma” works and comes around. Ever since they got caught CHEATING a weird series of event have happened to them. First, they go undefeated 16-0 only to lose in the S-bowl. (Thats gotta be eating at them forevers lol) Secondly pansy Brady busts his knee the following year, Thirdly They get waxed at home in the playoffs and what do you know another one of their guys gets a serios knee injury again the week before. Just goes to show that cheating never prevails and ALWAYS comes around.
Excellent point Erik. The league doled out it’s punishment and they are still have 3 rings in 4 years. Unfortunately the league burned the evidence so we’d never see if it helped or not.
The Steelers of the 70′s were so juiced up on roids, 10 of their players died before age 60 (2 in their 40′s) since 1996 of either heart attack or cancer, and another before the age of 65. Several players have admitted the rampant use so this isn’t speculation. If their dynasty isn’t diminished by steroids, I don’t believe Belichick’s videos do any different.
T-Bone – great point on the 1970s Steelers. They got away with murder.
Doesn’t Brady look very natural touching a guy’s shoulder in a loving manner?
Why wont my husband show any interest in me anymore? He just likes to watch Gladiator movies and hang out at the YMCA in the locker room
Look, I need some help. First, does anyone know much about defenses? And where I can find some offensive linemen? And a running back? Or two? And some receivers taht actually TRY to catch the ball and are under 35? And basically an entire defense? And I guess a new quarterback (thanks, Yoko!!!! Have some more kids!!) And does anyone know where I can get some film and a new camera?
Brady cost them the game, he has never been the same after that injury and its impossible at this age to recover. Also, with no running game , offensive line or defense, it will take years to acquire the players they will need to compete again. I dont see them in the playoffs for the next few years, unless they get some talent and a QB that wont be throwing 3 interceptions in a must win game
First the Ravens wax the Cheatriots, now my husband is waxing his legs. What gives?
Dude! You need to cool off Bill! You’re too tense bro! Take it from me… you need to relaaaax and when the posse comes, just go with the flow… of the Pacific Northwest… You want film and camera? I can hook you up with my man Reg B’s girlfriend, she knows about cameras and videos!!!!
Dynasty (n) – A family or group that maintains power for a substantial period of time.
The Patriots of the double zeroes were known for maintaining power for their 3 superbowls by closing out games. On top of that they have been to 4 in the last decade.
If you say you have to win the superbowl to be considered a powerful team don’t forget that 20% of the league has never made it to the superbowl. Hell, half the league hasn’t even won a superbowl. The Patriots of the 00s won 3.
If you can’t consider 3 SB wins in 4 years a dynasty then throw out the Steelers of the 70s that won 3 in 5 years, the 49ers of the 80s that won 3 in 6 years, and also the Cowboys of the 90s that won 3 in 4 years.
With what has been stated by some individuals there has been no dynasties in the NFL.
Colts must be considered for the dynasty title as well, given their success the last 10 years.
Record number of victories over a 10 year span (and still adding to that record).
Record number of consecutive seasons with 12+ victories (and likely to add another next year).
Rick says “Don’t forget, if the head guy in stripes had been doing his job, NY doesn’t win that superbowl the year the Patriots were going for perfection.”
Lame rationalizing, refs are supposed to hold their whistle until the play is obvious, and clearly it wasn’t as no Patriot had enough of Manning to bring him down.
Very funny that a Patriot fan claims a ref cheated them out of a Super Bowl when the refs were the only reason the Patriots got past the Raiders in the “Tuck Game”.
Cheating… hmmm, guess that is always a sore subject for Pats fans, given the taint their Super Bowl wins have…
What exactly have the Patriots won since they got caught cheating? Mmmm…That’s what I thought.
they havent been the same since they stop cheating
what have the patriots won since they got caught cheating? how about a overall record of 39-12! how about an undefeated regular season the very next year!!and a bunch of wins came during a period when there best player sat out a season with a knee injury. we lost a great offensive coordinator and lost a ton of talent on defense through retirments and trades. they are rebuilding. Remember folks. you are talking about a team that has accomplished more than any other in the era of free agency and supposed league parity. if all it took was to watch some defensive signals to be as succesfull as they have been, don’t you all think that every team ion the league would be scrambling to figure out how to do it without getting caught?
Lets see. Steelers of the 70’s (steriods) Broncos during their SB wins (way over the salary cap, to keep the players they needed – look it up) Cowboys (half the team was all coked out) None of it is good or ok but please don’t just point the finger at the Patriots. Some people just love to spout crap that they hear other people say
Hey, do any of you Gaytriot fans have film experience? I need to win!! My QB has YOKO for a wife now and he throws passes like Stevie Wonder. I need someone who can do some filming for me. Apply at Gillete, just ask for my office. Thanks, losers!
Hey does anyone out there need a QB? I want to get away from these losers! Wilfork just stole my lunch, they guy is 450 lbs and can barely get out of a chair. Get me out of here!!
I am done with this team. I have been a pat fan my whole life, but they need an offensive line, running backs, an entire defense, and now it looks like a QB. Its going to be years before they get this right. I have to go with winners, not losers! Look at the Jets, they have Mark Sanchez, A ROOKIE and they can win the big game, get it done on the road. These losers cant even win a must win game at home. Losers
These guys are killing me! First Harrison and Bruschi with the steroids, then my cameraman was supposed to swallow a pill if he got caught taping, these guys are just plain making me look bad!! Now they play football like teenage girls and lose by 3 TD’s to a wild card team. Does anyone out there need a coach??
Doesnt Tom look very natural rubbing a man’s shoulder and gazing deeply into his eyes?
Watching what has happened to Brady is sad, he is a shell of the QB he used to be, he should just retire because any winning, any glory they had, is now in the past. Sunday they were just embarassing.
Guys and Girls, Pats have 3 SuperBowls. do you know what that means??? it means they don’t give a damn about loosing like they did. they got over after loosing the superbowl to the giants, and you think they will not get over this loss? they need a lot of changes though. and people who get paid should figure out what they need to do. to me, i just want to enjoy every game.
it just got too easy for the pats to win the games so they got comfortable at the game and forgot about every year they need to make changes to stay on top of the game. I hope they realize that that winning is not as easy as it used to be. I guess they thought other teams would just be on the same game but all the teams have steped up their game on the other side Belichick and Brady are taking it easier. its a competition guys
Interesting to see all of the jealousy toward the PATS and their fans. I guess sitting and waiting for your teams to finally have a chance to win a big game that counts for a decade must be terrible. Cheating, tapes, etc., etc. all old news that these poor souls must cling to and repeat over and over, just to feel better. Brady and team will be back next year so another great decade can start all over so enjoy this time while you can.
Brady and the Pats will win at least one more Superbowl before he’s done.
Funny how you haters like to pile on but are nowhere when they were winning.
The fake people pretending to be from Boston onhere are a joke. Yeah like anyone from there is going to root for a NY team!
Spygate (yawn). You see how quickly the others teams agreed that it was an isolated incident and wanted no part of a league wide investigation.
Why???? Cause they were all doing it too OR they belived the NFL’s assessment. BTW THe allegation about the 2002 Superbowl were proven to be BS.
OK Now it’s time to cheer Favre on to beating Mannign in the Superbowl!
I think that you have to win without cheating to be a dynasty.
I think Brady is at the root of the problem in New Enland. He needs to improve or move on. At least show some emotions. Enough of the interceptions and throwing the ball a the receivers feet.
Fed up with Brady
The Pats are a good team (old),but will have 5 picks in the first two rounds of the draft.which they probably will draft mostly def.and a RB so look out next year. P.S. Steeler fan here
It is over, put a fork in them. As a season ticket holder for the last 20 years I’m ashamed of this ownership Mr. Kraft is looking to get 9 million dollars of tax payers money to built a over head walk way to the stores that they own which is more important than the football team the fans and the season ticket holder. This is why this team is done. The all mighty buck. But we will see when this team goes 2 and 14 no one is going to go to Foxboro to see the Pats or to go to his stores. They will be giving tickets away. I have seen this in Boston with Celtics. Who is going to go to Foxboro in the cold snow, rain? Walking 20 to 30 minutes just to get to the stadium, then climbing all the way up another 15 to 20 minutes to get to there seat. It’s not going to happen. SELL NOW KRAFT
You said,
“- The Patriots haven’t allowed more than 20 points in a home game since 1978, when they lost to the Houston Oilers, 31-14.”
You must have forgotten Miami’s 38-13 win IN NEW ENGLAND last year, when they unleashed the “wildcat”…please get your facts straight! (and with all the Fins fans posting here I’m surprised I’m the first one to point this out!)
Oh, and, the Pats haven’t been a “dynasty” since their last Super Bowl win in 2005. Guys, the “dyansty” has been over for years!
Nobody mentions they have no linebackers and traded down so far the last few years that they have added minimal talent. Piling up draft picks is plain stupid if you don’t use them. I was horrified at the D we fielded this year. Maybe Mr. Bill the Genius will realize his system isn’t worth crap without talent now.
You must have forgotten Miami’s 38-13 win IN NEW ENGLAND last year, when they unleashed the “wildcat”…please get your facts straight! (and with all the Fins fans posting here I’m surprised I’m the first one to point this out!)
It should have read “home playoff game.”
It’s fixed now – thanks for pointing it out.
Why is the media talking about New England dynasty why can’t you said that they got their butts kicked by a better football team that day. the media had new england going to the super bowl before the season every started.
Is it possible that most of the player on that team are getting old and they never said that they need to rebuild.
I guess there going to have change some rules to make sure new england makes the play off next year maybe we can call it the Tom Brady play-off rule.
another question who said that Dallas is America team anyway
If you idiots knew anything about sports you would watch
Fin fans, make the playoffs then we’ll talk. Pats had an off year. Brady just returned from an injury that has ended other player’s careers. If they suck next year, then I’ll listen. I agree that they didn’t look prepared for the Ravens and the Ravens kicked the crap out of them. They really lacked O & D coordinators this season. Play calling was horrendous…
Dynasty….Dynasty… They were never a Dynasty..
Dallas… is a Dynasty… Pittsburgh… is a Dynasty…New England..? Um, I will sum it up as… Americas Funniest Home Videos… cause with out taping the other teams practices.. well.. you see how far they got… America’s Team… I dont think so… Remember.. their is only one true Americas Team.. and it Reigns from DALLAS….
The word dynasty is such a strange word to me, we are talking about sports here right? which is talking about humans who eventually and inevitably passing their prime and lose their ’touch’, nothing lasts forever. How long do most NFL players last in the game? Brady has been rolling strong since ’01/’02 season, its inevitable for a player and a team to break down at some point. Though I am a strong fan, I do not think dynasty should be used for any sports team. All teams break down and then rebuild or at least have the ability too as long as there is good leadership. It’s rebuild time, hopefully they start with the D.
Rick…after reading your posts, it’s obvious you haven’t gotten over the loss to the Giants so I have a message for you: Suck it up big boy…you lost. You got your balls beat in that game and you were lucky to be in it. After 1 quarter it was obvious your hero Brady would have rather been anywhere in the world but on the field that night. I know that’s difficult for arrogant Pats fans (aka Redsox fans) to accept, but it’s the truth. You know it, I know it…let’s just leave it at that. Be a big enough fan to admit, you just got beat. Oh yeah…and “where are the big bad Giants these days”? They won a division title last season when your team was vacationing at Disneyworld, but I’m sure you weren’t running your yap then, only now that you won the weakest division in football again while the Giants didn’t make it. Face it…Brady can still feel the beating he took that night and he’s just not the same quarterback. That’s probably why he wears a skir now and wants a flag anytime a defensive lineman gets within arms length. It’s fans like you that give me pride in knowing it all started with the ass beating he took from the Giants. What really pisses me off is that I was defending the Pats dynasty in my earlier posts but I didn’t realize how deep that loss must have hurt you Pats fans…I love it!!
18 and f*ckin’ done, baby!! The biggest disappointment in NFL history.