Comments on: The state of the Knicks http://www.scoresreport.com/2009/08/12/the-state-of-the-knicks/ The National Sports Blog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:52:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: dean http://www.scoresreport.com/2009/08/12/the-state-of-the-knicks/#comment-410115 dean Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:21:40 +0000 http://www.scoresreport.com/?p=22536#comment-410115 I remember hearing about it at the deadline in was nate and jeffries for thomas and they didnt want to give up nate I remember hearing about it at the deadline in was nate and jeffries for thomas and they didnt want to give up nate

]]> By: Lamont http://www.scoresreport.com/2009/08/12/the-state-of-the-knicks/#comment-409810 Lamont Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:19:51 +0000 http://www.scoresreport.com/?p=22536#comment-409810 In regards to Jordan Hill being closer to Dale Davis than Amare Stoudenmire, if i'm correct didn't Dale Davis come closer to winning a championship than Stoudemire. Also, people have to realize you can't just trade for, draft or sign a big name or the popular choice you have to get the best fit for what you are trying to do. A lamborghini is the sexy car, sleek, fast, maneuverable...but if you running errands, coaching little league you get the mini-van; not as sexy but all the more useful and beneficial to what you are trying to do.The Knicks biggest problem last year was by far defense and with Hill and Douglas you have two players that are defensive oriented. I see Hill setting the tone on the perimeter and Hill putting forth the effort on the inside. While Hill may not be as good as advertised he at least puts forth the effort, something David Lee simply did not do. And with the young guys going all out on defense it will definitley turn up the heat on some of the veterans who are in contract years to turn up their play. In regards to Jordan Hill being closer to Dale Davis than Amare Stoudenmire, if i’m correct didn’t Dale Davis come closer to winning a championship than Stoudemire. Also, people have to realize you can’t just trade for, draft or sign a big name or the popular choice you have to get the best fit for what you are trying to do. A lamborghini is the sexy car, sleek, fast, maneuverable…but if you running errands, coaching little league you get the mini-van; not as sexy but all the more useful and beneficial to what you are trying to do.The Knicks biggest problem last year was by far defense and with Hill and Douglas you have two players that are defensive oriented. I see Hill setting the tone on the perimeter and Hill putting forth the effort on the inside. While Hill may not be as good as advertised he at least puts forth the effort, something David Lee simply did not do. And with the young guys going all out on defense it will definitley turn up the heat on some of the veterans who are in contract years to turn up their play.

]]> By: John Paulsen http://www.scoresreport.com/2009/08/12/the-state-of-the-knicks/#comment-409751 John Paulsen Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:14:53 +0000 http://www.scoresreport.com/?p=22536#comment-409751 Lee was 16/12 last year, but I think that translates to 14/10 on a team that plays at an average pace. Shon - I think you're right about that Jeffries trade. The whole Robinson thing rings a bell, but now it appears that they aren't too interested in keeping him around, so they probably should have pulled the trigger. It's going to be tough to move Curry and Jeffries because in order to save another team money, the Knicks will have to take salary on, and that's exactly what they're trying to shed. Curry and Jeffries would have to be packaged with a good player to get another team to take on their contract, and that means that the Knicks would be giving up assets (but it does explain why they'd be willing to give Lee and Robinson one-year deals -- it would make it easier to trade them mid-season). With all their faults, Randolph and Crawford are at least talented NBA players, which is why teams were willing to roll the dice. I don't know that we can say the same thing about Curry or Jeffries right now. Lee was 16/12 last year, but I think that translates to 14/10 on a team that plays at an average pace.

Shon – I think you’re right about that Jeffries trade. The whole Robinson thing rings a bell, but now it appears that they aren’t too interested in keeping him around, so they probably should have pulled the trigger.

It’s going to be tough to move Curry and Jeffries because in order to save another team money, the Knicks will have to take salary on, and that’s exactly what they’re trying to shed. Curry and Jeffries would have to be packaged with a good player to get another team to take on their contract, and that means that the Knicks would be giving up assets (but it does explain why they’d be willing to give Lee and Robinson one-year deals — it would make it easier to trade them mid-season).

With all their faults, Randolph and Crawford are at least talented NBA players, which is why teams were willing to roll the dice. I don’t know that we can say the same thing about Curry or Jeffries right now.

]]> By: Anthony http://www.scoresreport.com/2009/08/12/the-state-of-the-knicks/#comment-409719 Anthony Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:09:57 +0000 http://www.scoresreport.com/?p=22536#comment-409719 i don't see why the Knicks can't sign and trade Lee and package either Curry or Jeffries? that's what i'd be doing. you don't need Lee if you have Hill, who's more athletic than Lee. Lee got a lot of double doubles, but it wasn't like 20/25 pts and 12 rebounds he was getting. he's more of the 12 pts, 10 rebounds kind of guy. i think most big men in the NBA have the ability to get 10 and 10, 12 and 10. he's no Karl Malone, who would get 30 and 10 or 30 and 12. now THAT'S a double double. they're best bet is to find a team that wants Lee - Portland perhaps? - and package Curry. Curry wouldn't be a bad backup to Ogden who's bound to get hurt a few times this year. or trade with Memphis - they're always doing bad trades to help other teams out. i don’t see why the Knicks can’t sign and trade Lee and package either Curry or Jeffries? that’s what i’d be doing. you don’t need Lee if you have Hill, who’s more athletic than Lee. Lee got a lot of double doubles, but it wasn’t like 20/25 pts and 12 rebounds he was getting. he’s more of the 12 pts, 10 rebounds kind of guy. i think most big men in the NBA have the ability to get 10 and 10, 12 and 10. he’s no Karl Malone, who would get 30 and 10 or 30 and 12. now THAT’S a double double. they’re best bet is to find a team that wants Lee – Portland perhaps? – and package Curry. Curry wouldn’t be a bad backup to Ogden who’s bound to get hurt a few times this year. or trade with Memphis – they’re always doing bad trades to help other teams out.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.scoresreport.com/2009/08/12/the-state-of-the-knicks/#comment-409648 Andrew Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:44:57 +0000 http://www.scoresreport.com/?p=22536#comment-409648 Out of curiosity, which team could trade for Curry?? Is there a team out there that would want him??? Out of curiosity, which team could trade for Curry??
Is there a team out there that would want him???

]]> By: shon http://www.scoresreport.com/2009/08/12/the-state-of-the-knicks/#comment-409607 shon Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:45:28 +0000 http://www.scoresreport.com/?p=22536#comment-409607 I think the jeffries to sac trade included rabinson and the knicks were reluctant to trade nate at that time. I think the knicks talent is actually pretty good, they really lack leadership. as far as the last 2 drafts are concerned i believe gallo is a better fit for the knicks style than other players that were still available (Lopez especially) and hill was just the best player available. he also serves as insurance i guess in the case that lee leaves ny. I like the way donnie runs a team getting rid of randolph n crawford was nearly as difficult as getting rid of curry n jeffries is gonna be. I do believe ny can shed those contracts tho. curry is in a make or break year and must play well. jeffries can be packaged w mobleys contract to save a team money. we will have to see tho. lee n robinson will be signed next season n i think before training camp sessions will b here too. his asking price was just a bit too high. look what big baby just got. more along the lines of what sessions should b making. I think the jeffries to sac trade included rabinson and the knicks were reluctant to trade nate at that time. I think the knicks talent is actually pretty good, they really lack leadership. as far as the last 2 drafts are concerned i believe gallo is a better fit for the knicks style than other players that were still available (Lopez especially) and hill was just the best player available. he also serves as insurance i guess in the case that lee leaves ny. I like the way donnie runs a team getting rid of randolph n crawford was nearly as difficult as getting rid of curry n jeffries is gonna be. I do believe ny can shed those contracts tho. curry is in a make or break year and must play well. jeffries can be packaged w mobleys contract to save a team money. we will have to see tho. lee n robinson will be signed next season n i think before training camp sessions will b here too. his asking price was just a bit too high. look what big baby just got. more along the lines of what sessions should b making.

]]> By: John Paulsen http://www.scoresreport.com/2009/08/12/the-state-of-the-knicks/#comment-409548 John Paulsen Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:28:31 +0000 http://www.scoresreport.com/?p=22536#comment-409548 He has done a nice job of shedding salary -- I didn't think anyone would want Zach Randolph -- but the last two drafts are a little suspect, especially considering that the Knicks still don't have a point guard. The Jeffries non-trade, if true, is very perplexing. He has done a nice job of shedding salary — I didn’t think anyone would want Zach Randolph — but the last two drafts are a little suspect, especially considering that the Knicks still don’t have a point guard.

The Jeffries non-trade, if true, is very perplexing.

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