Comments on: What are these guys worth? (Part 1)

By: chickmagnetstuff

chickmagnetstuff — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:56:53 +0000

well I’d say yes to all your judgement except for Ben Gordon I think he’s better than those you’ve mentioned player like Mike Miller, Rip Hamilton and etc. and I think you can’t compare Mike Dunleavy to this rank he’s not good plain and simple he doesn’t deserve 9.8 million he is the one that’s over paid.

By: Bay24

Bay24 — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:59:59 +0000

Thats good stuff – a good article. Bottom line is – they are all well overpaid.

By: John Paulsen

John Paulsen — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:49:13 +0000

Part 2 is up. Thanks for the heads up. I neglected to make the link live.

http://www.scoresreport.com/2008/07/07/how-much-are-these-guys-worth-part-2/

By: Vik C

Vik C — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:32:37 +0000

Nice post, I liked how you also compared these players and their contracts to other similar players in the game. Looking forward to part 2.

By: John Paulsen

John Paulsen — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:16:55 +0000

Thanks for the feedback. I didn’t really use Randolph’s salary for the reasons you mentioned, but I listed him as a comparable player in certain cases just to give everyone an idea just out of whack some salaries can be.

As for the bench players, Childress is a special case because he’s playing behind three very good young players – Joe Johnson, Marvin Williams and Josh Smith. He’s playing about 30 minutes a game (which is just a bit less than the average starter plays), so I think most teams are looking at him as a 4th or 5th starter, glue-guy type. Moreover, he was on the court and Williams was on the bench in crunch time during the Hawks’ playoff series against the Celtics, so he’s basically a starter for Atlanta.

As for Smith, the two things that are holding him back are his attitude and his defense. He plays behind Iverson and Anthony, so I think most GMs would say that he has a starter’s talent. I suspect that he’ll get at least the mid-level ($5.5-$6.0 M) this year or next.

By: No Blood No Foul

No Blood No Foul — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 00:58:17 +0000

I like your analysis, but I have to disagree with a couple of points.

First of all, Zach Randolph’s contract should not be the basis for any comparisons. It’s clearly out of line considering just how un-tradeable he has become.

I also think that bench players – like Childress and J.R. Smith – can’t be compared to starters, regardless of equivalent PER. PER is one of 100 stats that can be used to evaluate players, and it’s important to remember that a bench player on one team is most likely a bench player on most teams. Granted, there are exceptions, but I believe your evaluations of J.R. Smith and Childress are a couple of million/year too high.

Still, a great list.