Comments on: Efficiency Per Minute http://www.scoresreport.com/2006/05/26/efficiency-per-minute/ The National Sports Blog Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:52:44 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: J. Paulsen http://www.scoresreport.com/2006/05/26/efficiency-per-minute/#comment-5744 J. Paulsen Tue, 20 Jun 2006 19:07:31 +0000 http://www.scoresreport.com/2006/05/26/efficiency-per-minute/#comment-5744 I agree with you. This isn't meant to be used in an absolute manner. There is a certain amount of common sense that goes into the use of any statistic, and EPM is no different. For instance, there isn't a chance in hell that I would take Carlos Boozer over Dwight Howard. You have to consider 1) Boozer's injury history and 2) the amount of attention that Howard saw as the best player on the Magic. But the fact remains, Boozer was more productive (stat-wise) in his minutes than Howard was. The same goes for Camby/Shaq...Camby put up better numbers in the minutes he played, but Shaq's intrinsic value makes him one of the top 2 centers in the league. Aside from steals, the stat also ignores defense, as there is no conceivable way to quantify it. So a team's defensive stopper - such as the Clippers' Quinton Ross - is going to be worth more than his EPM would indicate. I agree with you. This isn’t meant to be used in an absolute manner. There is a certain amount of common sense that goes into the use of any statistic, and EPM is no different.

For instance, there isn’t a chance in hell that I would take Carlos Boozer over Dwight Howard. You have to consider 1) Boozer’s injury history and 2) the amount of attention that Howard saw as the best player on the Magic. But the fact remains, Boozer was more productive (stat-wise) in his minutes than Howard was. The same goes for Camby/Shaq…Camby put up better numbers in the minutes he played, but Shaq’s intrinsic value makes him one of the top 2 centers in the league.

Aside from steals, the stat also ignores defense, as there is no conceivable way to quantify it. So a team’s defensive stopper – such as the Clippers’ Quinton Ross – is going to be worth more than his EPM would indicate.

]]> By: jon stanicek http://www.scoresreport.com/2006/05/26/efficiency-per-minute/#comment-5597 jon stanicek Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:48:01 +0000 http://www.scoresreport.com/2006/05/26/efficiency-per-minute/#comment-5597 With all due respect don't you think a formula that ends up with a result that Camby is a better center than Shaq is a little flawed? I see the logic in it, but there is a mental aspect to a game. The effect a player's rep. has on the other team. I mean I love Marion but better than Lebron. They play the same amout of min. but Lebron handles the ball more so will have more TO. and nobody is going to design a defense to stop Marion. Now as for Lebron that's all they do. All I'm saying sometimes Stats lie. With all due respect don’t you think a formula that ends up with a result that Camby is a better center than Shaq is a little flawed? I see the logic in it, but there is a mental aspect to a game. The effect a player’s rep. has on the other team. I mean I love Marion but better than Lebron. They play the same amout of min. but Lebron handles the ball more so will have more TO. and nobody is going to design a defense to stop Marion. Now as for Lebron that’s all they do. All I’m saying sometimes Stats lie.

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